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Spring shackles, nut?
« on: August 21, 2010, 10:22:51 »
Good morning!!  I were just about to start the search for my spring u bolts and nuts, plus the the bolts to locate the springs to the chassis, who good and who's not?  I went to cannock, in the series, from stourport, took me a bloody hour, only to find i need the casing number from the front to get the right ones!!  Got that now, got a sailsbury rear, so ready for the swop! Any help would be glorious!!  Thanks!!
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 22:10:11 »
Thats sounds a new one to me,all the series front casings are the same and theres only two casings for the rear and i doute the u bolts would be different??
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 10:16:40 »
I too find this strange!

If they asked what springs you were using it would make more sense.

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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 17:21:41 »
 2.25 petrol 88" front
Shackle pins,537742 x 4 & 537741 x2
Ubolts
axle up to and including suffix 'C' 562637 x3 & 562641 x1
suffix 'D' 624027 x3 & 90624033 x1
Suffix 'E' onwards nrc5002 x3 & nrc5007 x1

front, 88", & 109" diesel 109" 4cyl, 6cyl &109 V8 except 1 Ton
Shackle pins - As above
Ubolts...
88" & 109" axle up to and including suffix 'C' 543108 x3 & 569028x1
88" & 109" axle suffix 'D' 624028 x 3 & 624034 x 1
88" & 109" axle suffix 'E' onwards NRC3888 x 1 & nRC3882 x 3
109 V8 up to Axle suffix'B' NRC3004 x 1 & 624028 x 3
109 v8 Axle suffix 'C' onwards NRC4825 x 1 & NRC3882 x 3
109" 1 ton 592185 x 1 & 592184 x 3

Rear
Shackle Pins 537740 x 4 & 537741 x 2

Ubolts
88"
axle up to and including suffix 'C' 242127 x 4
suffix 'D' 9062431 x 4
Suffix 'E' onwards NRC3885 x 4

109" and 109 V8 except 1 Ton 592182 x 4

109" 1 Ton 592183 x 4

Plenty of choice then. Looks like you need to look on your axle and see what the number stamped on it is.



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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 10:30:38 »
All this text book stuff is all very well but after 30 years or so things get changed over.For example a stage one front axle casing is identical to a series 2/3 but a different part no.!!!Even the type of springs wont effect the u bolts.The shackels are only slightly different on the width(10mm) on the front on 1 tons. Most bits are interchangable.
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 22:43:07 »
That may be true but if you go to a parts suppliers, they need to give you the correct part otherwise they get grief (from folk like you, see your rants about Paddocks), they search for u bolts, it brings up a stack of different options. Unless you have one there to compare it with they're going to tell you to go and find out what axle you've got so they can give you the right ones. Especially as a lot of folk these days don't have the experience of series motors to know that the parts are pretty much the same.

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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 10:51:25 »
i took my old U-bolts to craddocks  when i swapped axles on the front of my bitsa, the old U-bolts were too small to go round my new axle tube without a big hammer and then wouldn't go thru the spring plate and visually i would have said the axles were identical , they couldn't help me with replacements so i had to hunt down a spring manufacturer to help with replacements...

it seems that not ALL axles are quite the same...

i've a feeling that the axles on my lightweight chassis and my Aussie/New Zealand 88" (Chalkie) are going to carry different U-bolts to a standard Rover axle due to the reinforcing ribs on both of them
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 23:25:08 »
Ive had that problem but made them fit,but you see all these adverts for parabollock springs that state,comes with free u bolts,they never give you a choice on which size you may want!!
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 18:18:12 »
Good evening blokes!!  Update on these bloody springs!!  i got to change the rears, after many hours of air gun work and a plasma cutter to get the bushes out from the chassis!!  Only had to do this cause the bolts snapped and rotted to the bushes!!  Only the front to do now!!  Any offers??  bloody nightmare they are!!  :cry: :cry:
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2010, 19:55:02 »
Hi mate,it aint that hard,blow torch the bush till it burns and knock the centre out then use a hack saw putting the blade through the bush before attaching it,saw a little then chissel it out,bout an hour mate...
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Re: Spring shackles, nut?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 21:29:58 »
Cheers!!  Will look at the fronts soon as have mot in december so need em done! lets hope these [!Expletive Deleted!] arent stuck in like the back!!  Cheers!!
1980 Series 111 Safari lwb, Needs love!!
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