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HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« on: February 21, 2009, 17:00:48 »
ive a 2000my td5 90

it was a good starter until recently then it was poor 10% of the time
took ages to crank over, other 90% of the time started first hit
ive just had a clutch and fly wheel fitted by a local garage he noticed the fuel pressure regulator was leaking into the bell housing so this was replaced
got it back had to be cranked over for about 2 mins before it would finally go
he checked fuel pressure and it was slightly low and the pump was a bit noisey so it was suggested that maybe the pump had knackered as it was over pumping due to the regulator leaking
new pump fitted new filter
primed the pump

now nearly impossible to start needs cranking over and over

scared to take it out in case i get stuck some where

nearly new battery , new glo plugs 5000 miles ago
used to run great
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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 18:16:37 »
Once started does it then start better?

Could it be that air is getting into the fuel system, and causing the fuel to go back to tank, and is self priming before starting?

Could be on the fuel filter, or a joint.

Does that make sense???????

Andy
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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 18:42:19 »
Once started does it then start better?

Could it be that air is getting into the fuel system, and causing the fuel to go back to tank, and is self priming before starting?

Could be on the fuel filter, or a joint.

Does that make sense???????

Andy

Hi Martin...

Could possibly be air...  have a good look around the fuel filter housing... they have a habit of cracking/becoming porous.

Another possibilty is you need new injector seals.  Cheap enough and easy to change with the correct tools.


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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 13:07:42 »
Once started does it then start better?

Could it be that air is getting into the fuel system, and causing the fuel to go back to tank, and is self priming before starting?

Could be on the fuel filter, or a joint.

Does that make sense???????

Andy

hi andy
not making a gurgling noise as id imagine when drawing aironce started doesnt start better

Hi Martin...

Could possibly be air...  have a good look around the fuel filter housing... they have a habit of cracking/becoming porous.

Another possibilty is you need new injector seals.  Cheap enough and easy to change with the correct tools.


Ian


hi ian

ill check the fuel  filter housing would i see any deisel leaking out at  the housing

ill try and get some one to do the seals


what about crank sensor ??i had that fail on a car a while back

ive had so much grief with the td5 i some times whish id stuck with the 200 tdi

except when its running its like a rocket  thanks to porny


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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 16:46:50 »
I had the same problem with my 1999 td5 a few weeks ago after i had a new fuel pump and filter fitted.
I primed the system a few times using the unofficial way of pumping throttle 5 times with ignition on and leaving the ecu to do the work.
I did this process twice and now it seems fine.

Hope this helps
Adam
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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 20:28:37 »
will keep trying to prime till the weekend 
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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 21:40:02 »
f@*kin great the bloody new regulator is peeing deisel out of the diverter valve im sick as sick can be  wish id kept the 200tdi
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Re: HELP TD5 DEFENDER VERY POOR STARTING help
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 22:09:43 »
help still needed

update  put new crak sensor on  ive had it on computer and the signal from the sensor fluctuates when cranking also the fuel pressure is reading low till it starts

it bumps first time on a small hill  once started runs like a dream im totally confused and frightened to use it because i cannot gaurantee it will start :huh:
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its fixed woopee
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 11:02:16 »
well its fixed fingers crossed  and youll never belive what it was im still in disbelief myself :dance:......................................................
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the starter

before you all start shouting at me it was spinning over very fast, but the faulty starter was drawing too many amps so the ecu did not have enough to fire the injectors or spin the pump up to pressure


never would have found it myself and my local mechanic could not find it ive picked the brains of the local stealer and independant to no avail


1 phone call to PORNY@ IRB DEVELOPMENTS and PETE @ BELL AUTOS and they pointed me in the right direction fixed 1/2 an hour later :clap: :clap: :clap:

just goes to show what great blokes they are  could have hot me down and robbed me blind because i was stuck but no free advice

just hope i can pay them back by spreading the word of how good they are

once again thanks guys
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Re: its fixed woopee
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 17:31:46 »
well its fixed fingers crossed  and youll never belive what it was im still in disbelief myself :dance:......................................................
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...........................( trying to build up suspense)...........................................................
.......................

the starter

before you all start shouting at me it was spinning over very fast, but the faulty starter was drawing too many amps so the ecu did not have enough to fire the injectors or spin the pump up to pressure


never would have found it myself and my local mechanic could not find it ive picked the brains of the local stealer and independant to no avail


1 phone call to PORNY@ IRB DEVELOPMENTS and PETE @ BELL AUTOS and they pointed me in the right direction fixed 1/2 an hour later :clap: :clap: :clap:

just goes to show what great blokes they are  could have hot me down and robbed me blind because i was stuck but no free advice

just hope i can pay them back by spreading the word of how good they are

once again thanks guys

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