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Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« on: August 02, 2008, 14:28:46 »
been looking around at cherokee,s as they seem to be plentiful and reasonably cheap at the mo, what are they like to live with, will it be a money pit(more so than a landy :lol:) seen a couple of modified ones that look really good are the parts readily available for modding and cheap?
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 15:54:32 »
really depends what you like, if you like Landrovers stick with em cos if you get a Jeep youll realise what youve been missing out on, as an example of a money pit I have been using a Jeep Cherokee now for 4 years and it has never let me down, the only real repair I have had to do is the torque converter seal and that was my fault really, had a trailer on with a Landrover that I was recovering and cooked the gearbox.

Parts are readily available but can be on the expensive side, breakers are your best bet, or the States.

The big down side to the Jeep is the old fuel consumption especially as soon as you touch the gearing set up, best bet is go for one on gas if you can get hold of one.

With relation to mods its likek most things, depends how much money youve got, how handy you are with the tools, we have a guy who has lifted his 3 inch for around £50 and we have others who lift them 3 inch for £500.

I'm sure there will be a few who disagree with the statement above but in my opinion and several Jeep guys I know that have owned Landrovers I would never go back, not a chance
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 16:29:58 »
i did think about a 5.7 grand ch one last yr could find one for love or money . vvv luxury  ;)

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 16:31:35 »
I know someone who uses one for laning and other various 4x4 stuff, he seems happy with it. The main problem you'll run into is that while standard spares are cheap 2nd hand (I've seen MOT failures for £100) buying mods can be expensive as you have to get them from the USA.
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 17:56:31 »
Lighthouse do parts and the service is brilliant

There's also Mansfield 4x4 and I think a new place has opened in Kent (4x4 magazine mentioned them this month)

With a Cherry you get a hell of a lot for your money.....

Modding parts from the US are not too expensive and there is a huge range to choose from..
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 18:54:49 »
You know my views  ;)

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 19:39:25 »
i run a 1996 grand ltd its great every extra u can imagine but 18 mpg is a bit of a pain
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 18:27:57 »
Used to have series 2 Landrovers and a 3.9 Range rover, Just bought a Grand Cherokee 2.5 diesel and loving it.

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 00:20:07 »
really depends what you like, if you like Landrovers stick with em cos if you get a Jeep youll realise what youve been missing out on, as an example of a money pit I have been using a Jeep Cherokee now for 4 years and it has never let me down, the only real repair I have had to do is the torque converter seal and that was my fault really, had a trailer on with a Landrover that I was recovering and cooked the gearbox.

Parts are readily available but can be on the expensive side, breakers are your best bet, or the States.

The big down side to the Jeep is the old fuel consumption especially as soon as you touch the gearing set up, best bet is go for one on gas if you can get hold of one.

With relation to mods its likek most things, depends how much money youve got, how handy you are with the tools, we have a guy who has lifted his 3 inch for around £50 and we have others who lift them 3 inch for £500.

I'm sure there will be a few who disagree with the statement above but in my opinion and several Jeep guys I know that have owned Landrovers I would never go back, not a chance

bang on gary!!!,ive had suzuki,s 90,s.discos,and I would NEVER have a green oval again,my spanners are gathering dust in the shed, its great,just done a 300 mile run with 80 miles of greenlanes in with it and my cherry never missed a beat not once,and we had a few landrover breakdowns but I never even popped the bonnet on mine at all, you can get a lot of offroady type bits but really to be honest all you need is a set of 30-31" tyres,a 3" lift and some front anti-roll bar disconnects and thats it!!!.........one thing is though that they eat petrol like its goin out of fashion so get one with an lpg conversion....there was a 1998 on ebay the other day with a 4" lift,new BFG,s all really tidy,all leather and stuff for £1295,ill show my ar** in burtons window if you could find a 90 or a disco in the same condition and year for the money
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2008, 00:23:06 »
I know someone who uses one for laning and other various 4x4 stuff, he seems happy with it. The main problem you'll run into is that while standard spares are cheap 2nd hand (I've seen MOT failures for £100) buying mods can be expensive as you have to get them from the USA.


WRONG!!! they are cheaper to buy from the US than from dealers in this country and they dont break down half as often as land rover
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 00:33:37 »
My Jeep was ridiculous, drank for england, rotted like hell and parts were insanely priced.......  It was fast tho'.
Uncle had a diesel for one month which tells you how much he like the boat engined heap...... 


 
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 00:46:02 »
Well,its horses for courses,but you must have got a bad one cos mine has no rust and has not broke down at all and its had some right pain,and yes as far as fuel,yes they do drink a lot,but at 50p a litre who cares......mines actually quite boring cos ive not had to put a spanner on it yet apart from the norm....and neither has my mate Mark who runs a Mitsi.......Its well known that once a car gets to a certain age they become totally un reliable but have you seen the price of secondhand 90,s lately??they are so over priced its unreal,so I bought a 1998 Xj for £1000 with low mileage and two owners and its best money I ever spent..........sorry
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 00:49:11 »
Can't argue wi' that i paid a grand for a 1969 V8 hybrid and that breaks down for fun :lol:

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2008, 14:19:34 »
yeah but it will break cos its 29 year old!! when mines that age it will be a pile of dust!!!.......so in the end its all an individual choice,some like landies,some like jeep or jap motors,if you go on a jeep forum they will all slag land rovers off and vice-versa
but for the money in my mind the green oval is not an option.........its always down to ££££ in the end
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2008, 21:29:16 »
We don'tslag Landies.....just take an aloof approach....horses for courses but whoever reads this thread please don't understimate Jeeps :lol:  :wink:
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 12:57:59 »
We don'tslag Landies.....just take an aloof approach....horses for courses but whoever reads this thread please don't understimate Jeeps :lol:  :wink:

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 19:42:26 »
thanks for all the replies they do appear to be value for money at the minute so i will take all the comments on board :D
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2008, 01:28:35 »
Just go for it.  A 4L with LPG - and I've got a Diesel (veg oil) one.

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 08:43:02 »
reading this with interest , got 2 discos , and like them a lot but the work ive done on them i reckon i could right  a small book . at the mo im using a grand thats had engine probs . cant seem to find the fault but seems ok to now . thing is its like a flying carpet compared with the disco and like said the fuell . getting 16 on average at the mo. so it would have to be gas for me . wouldnt have a vm lump . dont know what the 2'7 is like though ..alan....

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2008, 07:53:32 »
some interesting comments, as i too , am giving thought to a jeep. Need to know what theyre like in the real world tho' - and whats the problem with the VM lump - I know the early ones were heaps (RR and SD1)- but i thought that the newer ones were loads better?
also can someone doa a parts cost breakdown for
Brakes
Full service
and out of interest whats the mpg for
2.5 petrol
4.0 petrol
2.5 td
As said above i have seen cherry's and grand cherrys with LPG conversions for 11-1200 on v and W plates - try and find a L/R for that money..cheapest Disco of that age with gas con I have seen was 3500  and I was thinking "whats wrong with it?"
Dont get me wrong i love Landies - BUT there comes a apoint when you have to consider that cutting out floors and replacing them is not a fun pastime - YES I agree L/R parts are cheap - but thats mainly due to there being a huge aftermarket parts need - which sot of tells you something!
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2008, 08:32:30 »
Hired one a few years back in the States and drove it round a 200 mile "Jeep trail" in one of the National Parks.  Was well impressed by its trail capabilities;  just point and shoot and it went everywhere.

There's the added bonus that when people say "I like your Jeep mister" you don't have to kill them.
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2008, 16:54:26 »
As said avoid early VM lumps

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2008, 20:07:49 »
Just to add my two pence worth. I had a 94 cherokee 4.0ltd  and loved it, sold it just over 2 years ago cos it was starting to bear resemblence to a colender.

I bought a 98 v8 discovery to replace the jeep. Barely a week has gone by without somthing going wrong or needing to be replaced, I found the driving position uncomfortable and it was just as bad to drive as the 110 defenders at work, they can be forgiven because of what they are!

The conclusion is that I sold my discovery  YESTERDAY!!! at an excessive loss (mainly due to economic climate) and I have replaced it with yet another cherokee. This time a 2.5 petrol sport model, on a W plate I picked up for £1500 with 70k on the clock and FSH. EVEN if I scrap it tomorrow I won't lose a much money as I've lost on the discovery in 2 years.

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2008, 12:52:16 »
My Jeep was ridiculous, drank for england, rotted like hell and parts were insanely priced.......  It was fast tho'.
Uncle had a diesel for one month which tells you how much he like the boat engined heap...... 

mines a P reg and i have looked long and hard......................cant find any rust !  :D

if you are light on the right foot...........its no more thirsty than a subaru wrx or a madza rx8 !
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2009, 16:11:46 »
In the past I've had 6 LR's, when looking for an off roader I choose a Wrangler, happy days, I then bought a Cherokee, and then another Cherokee as it was very clean and cheap, all 4.0, all with gas.

Lots of people love their Landies, just like Jeep owners love theirs, we've all heard of horror stories... as for the comments about rusty Jeeps.... a friend bought new parts, special order, for his Disco brand new in the packet.... rust all ready built in to them, he wont fit them.

So in short, try a Jeep, 4 litres are real good, I'm sure you'll like it and it's nice to break the mould.... There is lots of advice and info in here....
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2009, 17:17:57 »
I used to laugh at landrovers when I drove frontera's, pulled too many defenders out in a 2.0 SWB frontera for it not to be funny any more.

Now I've a jeep you don't want to know what I think about them  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 21:33:32 »
Thats called a recommendation methinks...
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2009, 19:30:49 »
What date do the VMs to avoid precede ?  :smiley:

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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2009, 19:54:12 »
All of the Jeep diesels are VM's
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Re: Could i live with a jeep after owning a disco?
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2009, 21:30:26 »
Newer ones a MB CRD me thinks...
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